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Re: High Tech/New Tech
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>From: kurt@blazenet.net (Kurt Feltenberger)
>To: MP@nostromo.gate.net (Mailinglist 'MP')
>Subject: Re: High Tech/New Tech
>
>At 08:12 PM 9/4/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>In a message dated 97-09-04 18:57:07 EDT, Bill G wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My point is that a healthy modern economy can not develop in such a
place.
>>
>>> The USSR got away with it for a short time by exploiting its natural
>>> resources and military might to subjugate its citizenery.
>>
>> I guess you think 70 years is a short time. Huh.
>>
>>> This still required an "outside threat."
>>
>> I not sure what you mean in this context.
>> Here's some food for thought about "civilized" Japan. In 1871 the
Samurai
>>lost the right to carry two swords(this is a euphemism to their right
to
>>arbitrarily behead any commoner). Around this time equality before
the law
>>was also introduced. The major reason for reason for Japan's
>>"Westernization" was their fear of being subjugated by the Europeans
and
>>Americans.
>> My point is that given enough motivation and modicum of preserved
>>knowledge
>> the former third world countries could bring themselves back to early
>>twentieth century technology within a reasonable amount of time(say
>>twenty-five years).
>>Whether the motivation is fear, greed, national pride or world
hegemony
>>makes little difference.
>>
>>
>>> Now take S/C America after the bang. No major
>>> resources, lack of an effective central government, etc. There is a
couple
>>
>>> of potential bright spots. First is Chilie (as you mentioned) but a
free,
>>> modern ecomony growing in isolation is difficult to foresee. A
second is
>>> Africa. Resource are in a bounty and the Republic of SA is right
accross
>>the
>>> pond. It has the expertise required by SA and needs the oil so a
good
>>match
>>> in trade could be made. But given this, the project would be
doomed.
>> After
>>> all you now have a strong SA/Africa that will not want to see the
revival
>>of
>>> one of the biggest guest at the big party. They probably would have
moved
>>in
>>> with colonies long ago to "mine" the left over technologies and
resources
>>in
>>> the North!
>>
>>Just for curiosity. Where did Republic of SA get their oil from
during the
>>trade embargoes of the seventies and eighties?
>
>Not just oil. During that time they developed a first rate armaments
>industry and the ability to produce indigenous military hardware.
Other
>than oil, they have most of the raw materials necessary for making
modern
>materials.
>
>For what it's worth, I remember reading in Greg Porter's
Guns!Guns!Guns!
>(3G), that automatic weapons could have been built during the time of
>Julius Caeser. They would not be as durable or as efficient, but the
basic
>materials technology was present. Each one would probably be unique
and
>not have parts interchangeability with other specimens, but it could be
done.
>
>
>
>Kurt Feltenberger
>kurt@blazenet.net
>http://www.igateway.com/clients/kurt
>
>Hmmm.....Sten-gun armed Roman Legions against the boys(& girls) in >the
funny hats??????? >
M.Cessna
>
>
>
>
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