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[mp-gg] Re: Item Review: Trijicon TA-31A ACOG
> >If you have a lousy trigger press, the greatest gizmo sight in
> the world is
> >useless.
>
> I'll agree to a point on this issue. There's more to accuracy
> and hitting
> your target than trigger press; stance, grip, body indexing, etc. I had
> perhaps the five shittiest trigger presses, since I've been
> shooting, at a
> class in Louisiana this past spring. Stance, grip, and body indexing
> resulted in a five shot group shot from surprise that could be covered by
> my fist and all were in the throat/head/upper chest.
How was it "lousy"? "Fast" does not mean "bad".
I have met some folks who manage to compensate for bad trigger habits. One
fellow has his sights cranked way over, because he has a severe jerk habit.
When I shoot his pistol, it shoots about a foot to the left, at 15 yards. He
is happy with it.
At least he is consistent.
> >Sadly, most AR series rifles have really crappy triggers.
>
> That's really paiting with a broad brush and exaggerating the
> issue. Ever
> AR trigger I've handled has been good; not great, not Camp Perry quality,
> but certainly better than the shooter. Both my Colts have better than
> average triggers from the factory.
I hardly ever see one with a good trigger (or even clean) from the factory.
My original AR was the best one I ever examined that was "out of the box".
It was overly heavy and creepy, with a noticeable "scritch" just before the
break. Most are much worse.
My issue rifle in OSUT (basic training) gets honorable mention. Someone did
a trigger job on it, I suspect. I used a 5 pound weight from the day room,
and sure enough, the trigger would lift 5 pounds, but not 5 pounds and four
US quarters. It was clean and crisp. Off a sandbag on the 25 yard zero line,
it made one ragged hole with GI ammo.
I maxed the rifle course with that puppy. I wish I could have taken it with
me to my unit, it was that good. It was also an original M16, showing the
"A1" overstamp, and having a "bulls eye" forward assist, not the "modern"
one. It also appeared to have a nearly new barrel. Not one stoppage, even
with blanks and visibly beat-up magazines.
I miss that rifle.
> >Dropping $150 for
> >a decent trigger job is a vastly more important investment than a $450
> >sight.
> Actually, attending a quality Carbine course by Jim Crews or
> Louis Awerbuck
> is better than a trigger upgrade or an optic. I don't want to get in the
> habit of relying on a target trigger for a "social" rifle that I
> might have
> to depend on for my life.
"Target" trigger? I am not talking about 8-ounce benchrest triggers. For
High-Power matches, you still need four pounds, and I recommend no less for
"social guns". I like mine a bit heavier, at 4.5 or even 5 pounds. What I
demand is a clean break, no creep or crunch, and a minimum of travel. Once
you have this, and the gun shoots true off a rest, any problems are most
likely shooter not firearm.
Every gun I have for "social" purposes has a cleaned-up trigger.
> If it was just punching paper, fine. I rather
> learn with something stock than pimp it up with a lot of competition
> parts. Sort of the difference between the guy with the 1911 that
> he dumps
> $2k or more into to make it "combat custom" and the guy who puts
> a $65 set
> of Meprolite night sites on his Glock and says, "I'm ready".
Pimp it up? No. Just take it down to components, polish all the bearing
surfaces with progressively finer paper (1500 grit finish), use a fine to
ultra-fine stone to touch up the key contact points, and put in springs of
the appropriate weight. A bit of Teflon-based lube on the bearing surfaces
during re-assembly. Check function and pull weight.
If any of the factory parts are too far gone, only then replace them with a
quality replacement.
> >Kurt, Did you get a trigger job on that M-4 clone of yours?
>
> No need. However, the above being said, eventually I'm going to
> pick up a
> Colt's Tactical that's got tuned trigger and 24" barrel from the factory.
Tactical: what you have at hand when the crap hits the fan. Often mis-used
to mean "Includes hundreds of dollars of macho-looking crap that inspires
false confidence." and/or "Lots of awe-inspiring black plastic and
parkerization".
A cheap .25 and a pocket knife that you carry _everywhere_ are much more
"tactical" than the $3000 super-custom AR-15, $1000 "Combat" 1911, and 7"
Gerber that are locked in the trunk.
Two .25s in the head beats 30 .223s in the trunk.
Guns are not "tactical". People are. 8-)
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