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[mp-gg] Re: Gunshop From Hell...
The problem with all of this talk is it is a dead end. We have a channel
for people who want to work their butts off, it's called legal
immigration. Just because they are poor and want more and are close does
not give them carte blanche' to cross. What about those hard working
Syrians or hard working people in Hong Kong? Should we send boats to
pick them up to make it more fair, after all the Mexicans are so close?
No we would be sunk but the influx. We all would agree on that. So why
the soft hearts on Mexicans? It's called geographic moral relativism.
They are close; we see their faces and the poverty so we feel bad and
they should stay. But it is a false morality. You either let anyone
struggling in wherever they are or have fair rules for all. We can't let
everyone in so we must stop all those outside the rules.
Besides before this gets nasty, I could care less about immigration
policy I am concerned about BORDER CONTROL. I don't care if there are
twenty gardeners outside. Let them all in. Get them all cards etc.
The problem is the gangs and cars thieves who come across and go back
seeking safety. This shit has to stop. I am not worried about job
competion or how many hard working guys want to wait tables in NY. God
bless them. But down here we face a Palestinian style border problem.
They cross, they steal, they go back, repeat. Like shampoo instructions.
I will even put money down right now that our first suicide bomber comes
in across the souther border.
Fred H.
Randy Vice wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, PPanagakos wrote:
>
> > Ok I wasn't offended, and I can understand how you feel being close to the
> > border and all, but there are other sides to the coin as well.
> > I worked 15 years as a waiter in various diners here in NY. Most of the
> > kitchen staff I've worked with were mexican. When I say kitchen staff though
> > I don't mean the cooks ( They were mostly colombian or greek ), I mean the
> > busboys and the dishwashers. I'd like to discuss the dishwashers in
> > particular. These guys worked 6 days a week. 10-12 hour days for about
> > $150-200 a week because they were illegals. Now some of you are saying screw
> > them, serves them right for taking away jobs from american folks, but think
> > about that. Doing a shit job for 2 to 3 bucks an hour, they live like 8 guys
> > to an apartment so they can afford the rent and send money home. No american
> > in his right mind would do that. Well these guys do.
> > I worked in one diner in particular, where the boss got rich off these guys
> > sweat. One guy must have worked for him for 15 years.and this guy was like
> > 60. Well Jose lost his mother back in mexico and didn't have enough money to
> > bury her. All the other guys ( illegals as well) started taking a collection
> > up for him to go home and bury her. Do you know my asshole of a boss at the
> > time didn't even offer up a dollar!!! Not one fucking dollar.
> > My point is basically that there is good and bad in all people. As for the
> > drug issue, well hey maybe they should leagalize some of them and tax them.
> > I know I could use the tax break, and the criminals wouldn't make money so
> > some of the problems would go away, not all but some. ( Either way it would
> > not bother me, since I don't do them anyway).
>
> I'm all for those coming accross the border to work their asses off to
> make it happen for them. Those are the folks we need, they want to work
> which creates wealth for everyone. I don't think anyone on here has a
> major complaint about them being over here. Now the illegals that are
> doing criminal activity (other then just being here) such as drugs,
> thefts, murder, rapes or whatever, they need to be taken down and
> prevented from reentering into the US.
>
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> : United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their ownarms." :
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