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Re: High Tech/New Tech
- To: MP-GG@nostromo.gate.net (Mailinglist 'MP-GG')
- Subject: Re: High Tech/New Tech
- From: Bill Garmer <bgarmer@tsc.net>
- Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 07:42:57 -0700
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At 10:31 PM 8/28/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At 04:27 PM 8/28/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:44:17 -0400
>>> Reply-to: MP-GG@nostromo.gate.net (Mailinglist 'MP-GG')
>>> From: kurt@blazenet.net (Kurt Feltenberger)
>>> To: MP-GG@nostromo.gate.net (Mailinglist 'MP-GG')
>>> Subject: Re: High Tech/New Tech
>>> They are not ment to go after the Soviet/Russian/Chinese boomers during
the
>>> war and its immediate aftermath. They would be used only when the Project
>>> started to become active, to safeguard sites and bases from a follow up
>>> strike. As much as it pains me to say, the Navy would probably by out of
>>> commission due to losses, lack of parts, breakdown of command and control.
>>
>> It would be hard to find them, given the range of the missiles,
>>especially those on the Typhoon's. Without a SOSUS, or other world
>>wide system of locating enemy subs, an MP force could never find them
>>in time. Remember, some SLBM's could literally hit the U.S. after
>>being launched from drydocks in Russia.
>
>
>I agree it would be difficult. But one thing that would play into the HK's
>favor is that the Russians tend to keep thier Boomers close to home and
>when they do put out to sea tend to migrate to the so-called "bastions".
Only if they were in war mode. During peacetime operations, they sail
their boomers around a lot like the US. Basically it is a case of saying
they ain't afraid. They do tend to put escort subs with them. The
bastions, when set up, would have mine barriers and ASW ships on the borders.
>Another consideration is that even new and in top shape and efficiency,
>Soviet Boomers tend to be noisy. Added to 3-5 years of little or no
>refitting (the yards glow now) and the measures that would be needed to
>keep a crew of conscripts in line, I can not see how the Boomer, or Shooter
>for that matter, would be anywhere near peak efficiency.
And how are they staying at sea for 3-5 year without ports?
>Some SLBM's could do what you suggest. 3-5 years after the war they could
>still do it if the drydock was towed to within several hundred miles of the
>CONUS coast. The Sov's never sortied much of thier Boomer fleet at a time.
> To respond with a viable counterstrike after a US first strike, they would
>need to use the long range birds in high numbers. If the shipyards and
>resupply points are in ruins, the area for a viable launch shrinks greatly.
YES - plus add that when the crews get back to the remaining ports they are
going to split.
>Also, if you stake out the probable locations where the Boomers could put
>in for port facilities, you could locate them before they sortie.
>
Bill
>
>Kurt Feltenberger
>kurt@blazenet.net
>http://www.igateway.com/clients/kurt
>
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